Stubbo 8:30 Sat Sep 3
Is football actually corrupt?
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Decisions like today's certainly make me question this. The volume of money involved not just in the domestic game but in betting syndicates in the far East where billions upon billions are bet in the outcome of each match, controlled by unanswerable faceless individuals in the VAR room, as well as relatively lowly paid referees, with stables of players in both teams answering more to their agents than their clubs, with agents often having players on both sides of a match.
Given the variables, and with the all too common outcomes that are seen where everyone watching can see one logical decision and yet those 'involved' decide it should go the other way...it would almost be amazing if the game wasn't intrinsically corrupt.
If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck... it's more than likely a duck. Football IMO is as crooked as any sport out there.
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Takashi Miike
8:35 Sat Sep 3
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of course it is, rotten the core
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ATBOG
8:44 Sat Sep 3
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Yep. seconded, or thirded
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arsene york-hunt
8:45 Sat Sep 3
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Refs are either
1. Corrupt.
2. Incompetent
3. Scared of all the managers and supporters in the media of the big 5 and t*tteham.
It is driven by money and it stinks.
Today's decision was the worst in the history of football, since Thomas Cromwell was sent off for an innocuous challenge on Henry VIII in a game at Hampton Court.
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eastend joker
8:46 Sat Sep 3
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Var is the tool that has finally given them the real power to effect results , todays was diabolical but it has been happening for a while now and always in favour of the "chosen teams"
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Hermit Road
8:46 Sat Sep 3
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You look at ours, the Everton decision, I haven’t seen the Newcastle one yet but you have to say that something is rotten in Denmark.
It fucking stinks.
Oh yeah, I said on the match thread that some smart fucker will be along to say it was a good VAR decision. Don’t know if that’s happened there yet but Alex V has said it on Twitter. I miss him on here. He should be getting us riled up with that bollocks rather than tweeting it out to 2 people on Twitter
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twoleftfeet
8:48 Sat Sep 3
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VAR has not improved football.
Fact.
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master
8:52 Sat Sep 3
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https://twitter.com/NewcastleFansTV/status/1566084279733551107?s=20&t=Pt5ukiVvgkfhdBm8U-HBdQ
That's the Newcastle one from today.
Of course it's corrupt. The moment it was revealed that VAR wouldn't publicise the conversations taking place, nor the video that was being looked at at grounds, nor making it more than just the decision of a single corruptible person, then we all should have been screaming from the rooftops.
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13 Brentford Rd
8:53 Sat Sep 3
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Based on that farce today, absolutely!
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goose
8:56 Sat Sep 3
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I think managers & players should take a stand about the referees & VAR in this country.
‘Best league in the world’ with the worst officiating.
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master
8:57 Sat Sep 3
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Video in refereeing can absolutely work. But not in the current system adopted by FIFA/uefa.
It it needed was 3 refs in a room, mic'd up, majority decision watching a feed of the action on a 10 second, 20 second and 60 second delay. If they can't see a problem between them in that much time, then just carry on.
Most of these decisions can be made by the human eye in seconds. The stupid delays are all about drawing lines and using endless slowed down replays looking for things that aren't immediately obvious.
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Sven Roeder
8:58 Sat Sep 3
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Not seen how VAR actually works and definitely think it should be shown on tv and the conversations revealed.
Is it one man in the bunker and how are they monitored?
Do they have phones etc removed?
Or during a 3 or 4 minute delay could someone (lets call him Mike Dean) reply to a text with a yes or no from a betting syndicate that wanted to know whether he was going to make an unexpected decision?
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Mike Oxsaw
8:58 Sat Sep 3
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twoleftfeet 8:48 Sat Sep 3
VAR was NEVER introduced to improve football.
It was introduced under media pressure to increase controversy (with a side-dish of hidden control); it's the football equivalent of click-bait.
Anything that gets viewing figures up increases advertising reach is game, and fuck the consequences.
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Chip Shop Charlie
9:00 Sat Sep 3
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Back in the 90's everyone knew that WWF wrestling was bent but still watched it.
That's football for me today...bent as fuck.
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bruuuno
9:02 Sat Sep 3
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I’m going into to town to give some cunt a slap. Fuck off
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13 Brentford Rd
9:12 Sat Sep 3
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It worked fine during the Euros because it was used properly and sparingly only when there was a clear & obvious mistake by the ref.
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RichT BMUpper
9:14 Sat Sep 3
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It’s all corrupt for the big six did anyone just see that goal by villa and saying courtino is off side when the ball was played backwards…..and the winner is….The BIG 6 cunts
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Mad Dog
9:21 Sat Sep 3
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I think you'll.find in the official rules of football....
Rule 15.a "any goal scored against one of the 6 teams that tried to hold the Premier league to ransome (especially by west ham) shall be extra checked by VAR to find any trivial reason to disallow it, to appease them and keep their little egos happy"
It's a fucking disgrace how many "decisions" go the big club's way
They juat can't have their golden cow struggle too much in a fair game. The irony is the 6 clubs they protect desperately wanted to fuck off to their own little league and screw over the whole of English (Italian and spanish) football in the process. Instead of being punished they're being rewarded further.
It's scandalous and a fucking disgrace
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Stubbo
9:23 Sat Sep 3
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Referee decision making actually makes a lot more sense if viewed as being the actions of a corrupt organisation that are captured by outside influences.
It's only really unfathomable if the assumption is they're trying to get correct and fair decisions, but are somehow managing to get it wrong over and over despite the support or replays and technology.
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Iron Duke
9:31 Sat Sep 3
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I don’t think anyone could be that bad at their job, so there must be corruption involved.
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Stevethehammer
9:40 Sat Sep 3
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Of course it is.
Football is a money making machine
Teams such as the sky sports top 6 bring in so much money its a travesty when one of the chosen few don't win something.
Leicester winning the league the illusion that the PL can be won be anyone. It will never happen again and VAR is just another tool to keep the divide between the top 6 and the rest of the pack. Of course there will be a few decisions go against the top teams but over the course of the season and in the games that it matters they will get the rub of the green.
I am certain the PL have had secret meetings to make sure the chosen few get what they want after the fiasco surrounding the super league.
We just have to settle for trying to get as high as we can and try and break into the top 6 and get chosen.
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